Date:    Thu, 7 Feb 2002 17:06:07 -0700 
From:    "Bruno E. Romero" <romerob@CADVISION.COM> 
Subject: Singing Tango Music 
  
Dear Tango List: 
  
  
 Would like to find out if anybody has any ideas as to how to dance to 
singing tango music. Do we follow the instruments and not the singer's 
voice? I find it much easier to dance to the voices of Beron, Pomar, 
Serpa, Fiorentino, etc. With other singers I find the music becomes 
repetitive. Sometimes I wonder if dancers choose singing and mellow music 
where the beat and compas of the music is soft so that they are able to 
dance with more 
figures and thefore they feel they are not caught dancing off beat to the 
music. Any comments in this regard wll be appreciated. 
  
 Bruno Romero 
Calgary, Alberta, Western Canada 
  
  
 
 
 
Date:    Wed, 6 Feb 2002 09:03:44 -0700 
From:    "Bruno E. Romero" <romerob@CADVISION.COM> 
Subject: Singing Tango Music 
  
Would like to find out if anybody has any ideas as to how to dance to 
singing tango music. Do we follow the instruments and not the singer's 
voice? I find that it much easier to dance to the voices of Beron, Pomar, 
Serpa, Fiorentino, etc. With other singers I find the music becomes 
repetitive. Sometimes I wonder if dancers choose singing and mellow music 
where the beat and compas of the music is soft so that they dance with more 
figures and thefore they feel they are not caught dancing off beat to the 
music. Any comments in this regard wll be appreciated. 
  
Bruno 
  
  
 
 
 
Date:    Mon, 18 Feb 2002 08:10:41 -0800 
From:    Jai Jeffryes <doktordogg@YAHOO.COM> 
Subject: Re: Singing Tango Music 
 
--- "Bruno E. Romero" <romerob@CADVISION.COM> wrote: 
 > Would like to find out if anybody has any ideas as 
> to how to dance to 
> singing tango music. Do we follow the instruments 
> and not the singer's 
> voice? 
 That's a terrific question.  Are you familiar with 
"back phrasing"?  That's a rubato interpretation in 
singing that you hear all the time in show music and 
pop music.  Think Barbara Streisand.  Essentially, the 
singer sings late, delaying resolution of phrases 
(sometimes as much as entire measures), while the 
rhythm section (piano, guitar, bass, drums) lays down 
an unwavering pulse. 
  
This is a very common technique of rhythmic 
embellishment, and typically choreographers for shows 
line up steps with the rhythm section no matter what's 
happening with the voices, because that's what defines 
the pulse of the music. 
  
All styles of vocal music have some sort of common 
practice of rhythmic embellishment (rubato) that sets 
a fluid melodic interpretation against a solid 
rhythmic underpinning, whether it's Tony Bennett or 
bel canto Italian music. 
  
Now Gardel is the only singer I've ever heard who does 
the opposite of back-phrasing, singing everything 
early, a kind of "front phrasing".  I don't know if 
this is a general style of singing from Argentina or 
if this is a stylization unique to him, but it's very 
pronounced, particularly in the recordings I've heard 
of him singing with guitar accompaniment.  His beat is 
perpetually ahead of the guitar. 
  
If I were going to dance to those songs, I'd want to 
follow the guitar.  However, this form of rhythmic 
embellishment is so different from what I've heard, 
it's pretty hard not to be distracted by the voice.  I 
find it difficult to line up with the guitar. 
Furthermore, it can be pretty hard to make out the 
guitar in the background sometimes. 
  
This is why when I hear this music, I sit down.  It 
tends to be the case that vocal music is intended for 
listening anyway, not dancing.  This wasn't a rule 
invented by cantankerous "tango police".  It's simply 
a choice that is sensible for precisely the reason you 
brought up. 
  
There's a lot of vocal music I like, and I'm quite 
happy to dance to it if it's danceable.  However, if 
the rhythm of the song makes it more of a listening 
experience than a dancing one, I like to sit out and 
listen. 
  
Jai 
  
  
  
 
    
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