2414 invitations to dance...
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 10:48:22 -0700
From: sarah La Rocca <danzisima@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: invitations to dance...
Hello List,
I think women worldwide should invite men to do anything and everything, including dance. Not doing so may result in many lost adventures and opportunities. :)
Regards,
Sarah
NYC
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 15:10:01 -0500
From: Leonard Kunkel <image10@SWBELL.NET>
Subject: Invitations to dance
I get a number of ladies at any milonga asking me to dance and enjoy the
opportunity not to have to always be on the hunt for the next partner.
Since I dance most all the dances at a milonga I try to dance with most
all of the ladies in attendance anyway.
For guys that do not want to be asked, it is easy to avoid.
1) Don't sit down - this puts you in a position for a lady to zero in,
2) Always have your next partner in mind and proceed to ask her.
Any guy that does not want to be asked, just don't make yourself
available by being slow or dull witted.
Women, I like Sarah's comment, you only risk lost adventures and
opportunities by not asking. This is the same way I like to approach
life. Life is an adventure and sitting around being a spectator is never
as fulfilling as being a participant!
Blessings,
leonardo k
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 14:33:39 +0300
From: John Ward <johnofbristol@TISCALI.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: Invitations to dance
Personally I LOVE it when women aske me to dance. In fact, if I ask someone
to dance several times and she never asks me, I tend to assume that she
doesn't like dancing with me very much and I shouldn't ask her again.
Last evening I attended a Naistentanssit, or Ladies' dance, at the Vanhan
Kellari in Helsinki. Only women are permitted to ask for dances. The men
must sit quietly and wait patiently to be asked. To approach a woman is
a gross breach of good manners. It is not permitted for a man to refuse.
Probably the universe would implode if one did.
I was one of a number of men leaning on the barrier at the edge of the dance
floor, waiting hopefully. A woman came past, looking each of us up and down.
Then she stood to one side, gazing distainfully at us, before deciding that
she didn'w want to dance with any of us and would rather return to her table
and finish her drink.
John Ward
Bristol, UK
(But this week Helsinki, Finland)
>-- Original Message --
>Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 15:10:01 -0500
>Reply-To: Leonard Kunkel <image10@SWBELL.NET>
>From: Leonard Kunkel <image10@SWBELL.NET>
>Subject: [TANGO-L] Invitations to dance
>To: TANGO-L@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>
>
>I get a number of ladies at any milonga asking me to dance and enjoy the
>opportunity not to have to always be on the hunt for the next partner.
>
>Since I dance most all the dances at a milonga I try to dance with most
>all of the ladies in attendance anyway.
>
>For guys that do not want to be asked, it is easy to avoid.
>1) Don't sit down - this puts you in a position for a lady to zero in,
>2) Always have your next partner in mind and proceed to ask her.
>
>Any guy that does not want to be asked, just don't make yourself
>available by being slow or dull witted.
>
>Women, I like Sarah's comment, you only risk lost adventures and
>opportunities by not asking. This is the same way I like to approach
>life. Life is an adventure and sitting around being a spectator is never
>as fulfilling as being a participant!
>
>Blessings,
>leonardo k
>
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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 08:19:10 EDT
From: Mallpasso@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Invitations to dance
johnof bristol said:
"I was one of a number of men leaning on the barrier at the edge of the dance
floor, waiting hopefully. A woman came past, looking each of us up and down.
Then she stood to one side, gazing distainfully at us, before deciding that
she didn'w want to dance with any of us and would rather return to her table
and finish her drink."
No wonder so many men commit suicide in Finland.... this is no joke as the
suicide number in Finland is quite high.
In a message dated 4/28/2004 04:34:31 Pacific Daylight Time,
johnofbristol@TISCALI.CO.UK writes:
Personally I LOVE it when women aske me to dance. In fact, if I ask someone
to dance several times and she never asks me, I tend to assume that she
doesn't like dancing with me very much and I shouldn't ask her again.
Last evening I attended a Naistentanssit, or Ladies' dance, at the Vanhan
Kellari in Helsinki. Only women are permitted to ask for dances. The men
must sit quietly and wait patiently to be asked. To approach a woman is
a gross breach of good manners. It is not permitted for a man to refuse.
Probably the universe would implode if one did.
I was one of a number of men leaning on the barrier at the edge of the dance
floor, waiting hopefully. A woman came past, looking each of us up and down.
Then she stood to one side, gazing distainfully at us, before deciding that
she didn'w want to dance with any of us and would rather return to her table
and finish her drink.
John Ward
Bristol, UK
(But this week Helsinki, Finland)
>-- Original Message --
>Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 15:10:01 -0500
>Reply-To: Leonard Kunkel <image10@SWBELL.NET>
>From: Leonard Kunkel <image10@SWBELL.NET>
>Subject: [TANGO-L] Invitations to dance
>To: TANGO-L@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>
>
>I get a number of ladies at any milonga asking me to dance and enjoy the
>opportunity not to have to always be on the hunt for the next partner.
>
>Since I dance most all the dances at a milonga I try to dance with most
>all of the ladies in attendance anyway.
>
>For guys that do not want to be asked, it is easy to avoid.
>1) Don't sit down - this puts you in a position for a lady to zero in,
>2) Always have your next partner in mind and proceed to ask her.
>
>Any guy that does not want to be asked, just don't make yourself
>available by being slow or dull witted.
>
>Women, I like Sarah's comment, you only risk lost adventures and
>opportunities by not asking. This is the same way I like to approach
>life. Life is an adventure and sitting around being a spectator is never
>as fulfilling as being a participant!
>
>Blessings,
>leonardo k
>
Broadband from an unbeatable £15.99!
https://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband/home.html?code=SM-NL-11AM
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 22:09:47 +0900
From: astrid <astrid@RUBY.PLALA.OR.JP>
Subject: Re: Invitations to dance
john of bristol said:
"I was one of a number of men leaning on the barrier at the edge of the
dance
floor, waiting hopefully. A woman came past, looking each of us up and down.
Then she stood to one side, gazing distainfully at us, before deciding that
she didn'w want to dance with any of us and would rather return to her table
and finish her drink."
No wonder so many men commit suicide in Finland.... this is no joke as the
suicide number in Finland is quite high.
(caution-rant mode enabled, thanks for the coinage, Lois):
The high suicide rate exists all over Scandinavia, incl. Sweden, Norway,
Iceland and Finnland, and is, for all I know, not due to the way men there
are treated by women, but because of the darkness that lasts during a lot of
the daytime in winter, and the introverted mentality, which is probably due
to the darkness..
In Scandinavia, women have traditionally played a more equal role to men,
and Scandinavia has usually had the most progressive laws concerning women
in all of Europe.
I must say, I quite like that Naistentanssit, from the sound of it. And if
you guys think, that this leads to a rise in the suicide rate of males, it
only proves my impression: in tango, the supposively highly delicate male
ego is generally treated like a raw egg by the Argentine teacher, while the
women are expected by him to put up with things that could drive some people
to throwing themselves off a bridge, (esp. the tango males, apparently). If
you think, putting up with the above mentioned treatment at a milonga is a
tough act, I believe, the girls in Finnland are only giving the guys a
vivid replay of what happens to many women at milongas all the time, and is
considered perfectly normal and the given right of every male in tango.
Astrid's two cents
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2004 14:05:04 EDT
From: Mallpasso@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: Invitations to dance
If your answer was correct then how do you explain this:
https://www.aneki.com/suicide.html
Many of the countries listed do not have long winter nights.
john of bristol said:
"I was one of a number of men leaning on the barrier at the edge of the
dance
floor, waiting hopefully. A woman came past, looking each of us up and down.
Then she stood to one side, gazing distainfully at us, before deciding that
she didn'w want to dance with any of us and would rather return to her table
and finish her drink."
No wonder so many men commit suicide in Finland.... this is no joke as the
suicide number in Finland is quite high.
(caution-rant mode enabled, thanks for the coinage, Lois):
The high suicide rate exists all over Scandinavia, incl. Sweden, Norway,
Iceland and Finnland, and is, for all I know, not due to the way men there
are treated by women, but because of the darkness that lasts during a lot of
the daytime in winter, and the introverted mentality, which is probably due
to the darkness..
In Scandinavia, women have traditionally played a more equal role to men,
and Scandinavia has usually had the most progressive laws concerning women
in all of Europe.
I must say, I quite like that Naistentanssit, from the sound of it. And if
you guys think, that this leads to a rise in the suicide rate of males, it
only proves my impression: in tango, the supposively highly delicate male
ego is generally treated like a raw egg by the Argentine teacher, while the
women are expected by him to put up with things that could drive some people
to throwing themselves off a bridge, (esp. the tango males, apparently). If
you think, putting up with the above mentioned treatment at a milonga is a
tough act, I believe, the girls in Finnland are only giving the guys a
vivid replay of what happens to many women at milongas all the time, and is
considered perfectly normal and the given right of every male in tango.
Astrid's two cents
