2638 Learning to be emotional??
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 18:33:05 GMT
From: michael <tangomaniac@JUNO.COM>
Subject: Re: Learning to be emotional??
Oleh:
I'd be very careful about using the language "emotional part is much harder to learn." I don't think you can learn the emotional part. I agree completely about being mature enough to not be afraid to be vulnerable.
I went to a yoga therapist weekly for three years. Each week, she squeezed tension out of my body like toothpaste out of a tube. I couldn't believe how much there was. I used to yell in frustration to my teacher when I couldn't execute a figure he taught me. He used to tell me "Michael, I'm standing right next to you." After a while I used to say "Why am I yelling in my own house?"
The best way I can explain not being afraid to be vulnerable is to quote my teacher. "We can only embrace others after we can embrace ourselves."
I've learned much than tango from Joe.
Michael Ditkoff
Grateful in Washington, DC
California, here I come next week
Milongas Friday, Saturday, Sunday and my cruise begins
the following Tuesday
-- Oleh Kovalchuke <oleh_k@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
There are two parts to the dance: 1. technical and 2. emotional
The second, emotional part is much harder to learn. It is this part where life-long learning of tango comes from. One has to be mature enough to not be afraid to be vulnerable. One has to have enough depth (usually coming from life experience) to have something to share.
Cheers, Oleh K.
https://TangoSpring.com - 9 days till Tango in the Park milonga in Manitou Springs and 22 days till Labor Day Festival in Denver
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 19:42:34 +0000
From: Oleh Kovalchuke <oleh_k@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Learning to be emotional??
Michael Ditkoff, Grateful in Washington, DC has cautioned:
"I'd be very careful about using the language "emotional part is much harder
to learn." I don't think you can learn the emotional part. "
I don't think anyone can teach it. One can learn it though: the process is
called maturing. You are right, not everyone is capable or is in appropriate
circumstances to go through this process.
Cheers, Oleh K.
https://TangoSpring.com - 9 days till Tango in the Park milonga in Manitou
Springs and 22 days till Labor Day Festival in Denver
>From: michael <tangomaniac@JUNO.COM>
>Reply-To: michael <tangomaniac@JUNO.COM>
>To: TANGO-L@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>Subject: Re: [TANGO-L] Learning to be emotional??
>Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 18:33:05 GMT
>
>Oleh:
>I'd be very careful about using the language "emotional part is much harder
>to learn." I don't think you can learn the emotional part. I agree
>completely about being mature enough to not be afraid to be vulnerable.
>
>I went to a yoga therapist weekly for three years. Each week, she squeezed
>tension out of my body like toothpaste out of a tube. I couldn't believe
>how much there was. I used to yell in frustration to my teacher when I
>couldn't execute a figure he taught me. He used to tell me "Michael, I'm
>standing right next to you." After a while I used to say "Why am I yelling
>in my own house?"
>
>The best way I can explain not being afraid to be vulnerable is to quote my
>teacher. "We can only embrace others after we can embrace ourselves."
>
>I've learned much than tango from Joe.
>
>Michael Ditkoff
>Grateful in Washington, DC
>California, here I come next week
>Milongas Friday, Saturday, Sunday and my cruise begins
> the following Tuesday
>
>
>-- Oleh Kovalchuke <oleh_k@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
>There are two parts to the dance: 1. technical and 2. emotional
>
>The second, emotional part is much harder to learn. It is this part where
>life-long learning of tango comes from. One has to be mature enough to not
>be afraid to be vulnerable. One has to have enough depth (usually coming
>from life experience) to have something to share.
>
>Cheers, Oleh K.
>https://TangoSpring.com - 9 days till Tango in the Park milonga in Manitou
>Springs and 22 days till Labor Day Festival in Denver
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 16:03:58 -0700
From: Carlos Lima <amilsolrac@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: Learning to be emotional??
Michael, the Tango Maniac spoke:
> I went to a yoga therapist weekly for three years. Each week, she squeezed
tension out of my body like toothpaste out of a tube. I couldn't believe how
much there was. I used to yell in frustration to my teacher when I couldn't
execute a figure he taught me. He used to tell me "Michael, I'm standing
right next to you." After a while I used to say "Why am I yelling in my own
house?" <
So Michael, in your case, and at least in part, "learning the emotional part"
(?!) meant learning to be LesS emotional. Purity of emotion, even purity of
passion, come to mind, but I am inclined to reject purity of anger, or hate,
well, personally. I will not elaborate further, but I think you may have
stumbled on something quite profound concerning how to become a real
milonguero, and why younger men seem to be at a disadvantage. Far more
convincing than that jAmamehh!! down in BAs. However, I must confess, the
jAmamehh!! was quite, quite, entertaining. Still, I think I am very far from
learning how to enjoy flowery piropos, and probably will not be ready if and
when women start tossing them my way.
Cheers,
PS - The first half is meant entirely seriously. I will let you guess as to
the LhhoveMee!!
Cheers,
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 13:13:00 GMT
From: michael <tangomaniac@JUNO.COM>
Subject: Re: Learning to be emotional??
No, Carlos. It's exactly the opposite. To use your terms, I "learned" to be MORE, not less, emotional. Now perhaps "emotional" is the wrong term. I mean not being afraid to be in touch with my emotions. It means not to be afraid to feel your partner's heart pulsing. It means not to be afraid to reciprocate when your partner gives warmth. It means to give in to whatever passion you feel from your partner and music. I love DiSarli specifically for this reason. The slow music with strong chords just pulls on my heart.
The best way I can describe as dancing tango emotionally is the famous milonguero expression:
4 legs
2 bodies
1 heart
Michael Ditkoff
Washington
1 week before my vacation begins
in San Francisco (3 nights of dancing)
Then 18 day cruise to NY
-- Carlos Lima <amilsolrac@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
So Michael, in your case, and at least in part, "learning the emotional part" (?!) meant learning to be LesS emotional. Purity of emotion, even purity of passion, come to mind, but I am inclined to reject purity of anger, or hate, well, personally. I will not elaborate further, but I think you may have stumbled on something quite profound concerning how to become a real milonguero, and why younger men seem to be at a disadvantage.
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 11:19:39 -0700
From: Carlos Lima <amilsolrac@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Learning to be emotional??
Michael from DC quotes a famous old milonguero's view:
> Four legs
Two bodies
One heart <
To me, at its best, it feels more like: four legs, one body, two hearts --
one hopes, neither lonely. This may be because I am not a true milonguero ...
er ... yet; and at best infamous.
Cheers
