3192 Milonga Rating System
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 22:00:18 -0500
From: Michael <tangomaniac@CAVTEL.NET>
Subject: Milonga Rating System
Movies have a rating system: G, PG, R , M, X, XX, XXX, etc. Should Milongas have similar ratings?
When I go to a milonga, I expect what I call the "good stuff," Pugliese, DiSarli, Canaro, Troilo, etc. Imagine my surprise when I went to a =
milonga and all I heard for 1 hour was what I GENEROUSLY call alternative music.
When I asked the DJ if he had any "good stuff," he said there would be DiSarli after three more tangos. After waiting one hour, I decided NOT =
to wait any longer and left for my hotel. Seeing me leave must have caused a twinge of the DJ's conscience because DiSarli immediately came =
on. But it was too late as I had already pulled for the door.
Should milongas have a rating system so that dancers will know what type of music to expect: traditional, alternative, mix, etc?
Michael Ditkoff
Wasn't a completely wasted trip to New York
I learned volcados from Virginia Kelly
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 17:07:25 -0800
From: DayLightPix <daylightpix@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: Milonga Rating System
From what I heard, many milongas in BoAS simply lists
the % of music played. For example,
80% traditional, 5% salsa, 15 % alternative.
David
--- Michael <tangomaniac@CAVTEL.NET> wrote:
> Movies have a rating system: G, PG, R , M, X, XX,
> XXX, etc. Should Milongas have similar ratings?
> When I go to a milonga, I expect what I call the
> "good stuff," Pugliese, DiSarli, Canaro, Troilo,
> etc. Imagine my surprise when I went to a milonga
> and all I heard for 1 hour was what I GENEROUSLY
> call alternative music.
> When I asked the DJ if he had any "good stuff," he
> said there would be DiSarli after three more
> tangos. After waiting one hour, I decided NOT to
> wait any longer and left for my hotel. Seeing me
> leave must have caused a twinge of the DJ's
> conscience because DiSarli immediately came on. But
> it was too late as I had already pulled for the
> door.
>
> Should milongas have a rating system so that dancers
> will know what type of music to expect: traditional,
> alternative, mix, etc?
>
> Michael Ditkoff
> Wasn't a completely wasted trip to New York
> I learned volcados from Virginia Kelly
>
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2005 13:49:19 -0800
From: Elemer Dubrovay <dubrovay@JUNO.COM>
Subject: Re: Milonga Rating System
I am from Buenos Aires and I never heard about this rating used or
playing alternative or salsa music in the main milongas of the city
Please if you remember the name of the milongas, let me know so I will
stay away from them.
Elemer in Redmond
On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 17:07:25 -0800 DayLightPix <daylightpix@YAHOO.COM>
writes:
> From what I heard, many milongas in BoAS simply lists
> the % of music played. For example,
>
> 80% traditional, 5% salsa, 15 % alternative.
>
> David
>
>
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2005 18:07:31 -0800
From: DayLightPix <daylightpix@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: Milonga Rating System
Elemer,
The person who provided me with the information
regularly travels to BoAS to dance, for the past seven
years. Here is more information from that person.
Last year was the last time this person was there. The
posting was there. Perhaps something has changed in
the past year. However, the posting have been pretty
consistent for seven years; a lot of organizations at
various time have posted their various mix of music.
These milonga should have the music posting:
La Esprella (saturday, also friday)
Before you pay, look for a big sign either on a tripod
or on a wall.
Confiteria Ideal
These are some of the music categories:
- Tango (sometimes break down to tango, milonga, vals)
- Tropicale (includes salsa, and other latin rhythms)
- Folk lore
- Other (includes swing)
Regarding "I never heard ... playing ... salsa music
in the main milongas of the city",
Salsa music is not only frequently played, salsa is
always played. The milonga "Almagro" famously put on
salsa and dim the lights right before they play the
pugliese.
It is true that Alternative tango is not listed as a
category in BoAS (probably because it's rarely played
there, maybe it's under the "other" category).
However, since alternative music is played as
significant portions of a number of milongas around
the world, it is a potential music category for many
milongas.
David Liu
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 11:55:11 -0800
From: Elemer Dubrovay <dubrovay@JUNO.COM>
Subject: Re: Milonga Rating System
Hello David,
From my experience, dancing in- El Beso, Salon Canning, Confiterma La
Ideal, Tasso, Gricel, Sin Rumbo, Viejo Correo, Porteqo y Bailarin
all I saw was Tango, Vals, Milonga dancing.
The Viejo Correo had a few Chacareras.
I also found some swing and salsa dancing in a milonga Mar del Plata, a
resort city 400 kilometers from Buenos Aires, and the dancers where
not using tango steps when dancing to this music.
Back in the late 1940's the clubs had two orchestras for dancing, about
one hour with each, The Orquesta Tipica and the Swing orchestra, I
remember, Oscar Aleman, Feliciano Brunelli etc.
We had to know how to dance tango, swing, fox-trot, pasodobles etc. and
dancing with tango steps to a different music was nor accepted.
Elemer in Redmond
On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 18:07:31 -0800 DayLightPix <daylightpix@YAHOO.COM>
writes:
> Elemer,
>
> The person who provided me with the information
> regularly travels to BoAS to dance, for the past seven
> years. Here is more information from that person.
>
> Last year was the last time this person was there. The
> posting was there. Perhaps something has changed in
> the past year. However, the posting have been pretty
> consistent for seven years; a lot of organizations at
> various time have posted their various mix of music.
>
>
> These milonga should have the music posting:
>
> La Esprella (saturday, also friday)
> Before you pay, look for a big sign either on a tripod
> or on a wall.
>
> Confiteria Ideal
>
>
> These are some of the music categories:
> - Tango (sometimes break down to tango, milonga, vals)
> - Tropicale (includes salsa, and other latin rhythms)
> - Folk lore
> - Other (includes swing)
>
