4001 Most people with bad taste are that way because they lack knowledge.
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 21:18:22 -0800
From: Derik Rawson <rawsonweb@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Most people with bad taste are that way because they lack knowledge.
Dear Ket:
This is not about elitism. It is about depth of
experience. Most people with bad taste are that way
because they lack knowledge. They can improve their
taste through education, just like anyone else. If
they refuse and critize others, then they can become
the worst of snobs.
Argentine Tango is all about surprises. It is about
contrasts and even shocking things. It is not for
people who are afraid to grow, whether they are in
high society or not. Life makes no sense at all and
tango clarifies that nicely....lol. As a beautiful
girl from California once told me in Paris. "Tango is
all about life's ironies." I think that she is
absolutely right.
One reason that tango is exciting, especially in
Europe, is that a street dance from Lunfardo-speaking
criminal gangs in Buenos Aires is usually performed in
Europe by dancers in suits and black tie in beautiful
old world palaces or on a mountain top overlooking the
sea. The surprise of the earthy dance and the
beautiful settings is a contrast of the highest order.
The total effect is a wild ride. For me it is a bit
like watching Jame Bond in a tuxedo in the beautiful
casinos of Monte Carlo behave like a low life
gangster, while wearing a white coat summer
tuxedo....holding his Martini...shaken, not
stired...lol. In the US, we are missing all this
beautiful high drama by having events in dance studios
and hotels and not dressing up for fun.
For me, Argentine Tango is all about good taste. For
this reason it should be complex and very interesting,
just like a good wine. It should not be made simple
and easy for snobs of any kind. It should remain
complex for people who really enjoy life and are
looking for some real adventure. Limiting oneself in
Argentine Tango is not an option. My opinion.
Derik
d.rawson@rawsonweb.com
--- Kat <hellkat_13@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> I'm always floored by the pretention and irony of
> somebody saying a person or group isn't "classy"
> enough to dance tango. To me, tango is like the Jay
> Gatsby of dances. it's a self-made man, who's charm
> is in no small part dependent on it's seedy roots.
> Putting on a tuxedo and slicking back your hair
> won't
> make you a good dancer, working hard, listening to
> the
> music, and having a soul will. The last time I
> checked, that wasn't dependent on class,
> nationality,
> or dress code.
>
> Don't get me wrong, it's fun to dress up and make
> something that could have been simply charming
> completely hypnotic. But to count the worth of an
> event based on the trimmings of the attendees or the
> location seems like you're either in it for the eye
> candy or the elitism more than the dancing. i gave
> that crap up with ballet.
>
> Kat
>
> --- Lucia <curvasreales@YAHOO.COM.AR> wrote:
>
> > --- Derik Rawson <rawsonweb@YAHOO.COM> escribis:
> >
> > > Dear All:
> > >
> > > The difference in a word is "elegance". In
> Europe
> > > good taste. Nicely dressed people and beautiful
> > > settings. In the USA bad taste. Poorly dressed
> > > people .....
> >
> > Let's face the truth: most people dancing the
> Tango
> > belong to the middle classes. Europeans and Latin
> > Americans who belong show their "class" without
> > compunction. Middle class American naives
> subscribe
> > to the American mythology's fiction that it is a
> > classless society, their taste being taught by
> > marketing drives....
> >
> > Lucia
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> > Send "Where can I Tango in <city>?" requests to
> > Tango-A rather than to
> > Tango-L, since you can indicate the region. To
> > subscribe to Tango-A,
> > send "subscribe Tango-A Firstname Lastname" to
> > LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU.
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> Send "Where can I Tango in <city>?" requests to
> Tango-A rather than to
> Tango-L, since you can indicate the region. To
> subscribe to Tango-A,
> send "subscribe Tango-A Firstname Lastname" to
> LISTSERV@MITVMA.MIT.EDU.
>
>
>
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 07:39:07 -0800
From: Kat <hellkat_13@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: Most people with bad taste are that way because they lack knowledge.
Dear Derik,
You're right, it's not about elitism, it's about
narrow-mindedness. Most people that are snobs are
that way because they fear the unknown. They can
widen their appreciation of the world around them if
they step out of the isolated bubble they're living in
for ten minutes, just like anybody else. I just think
it's absurd that snobs believe that they can be the
end-all arbiters of good taste.
Fwiw, I'm familiar with, and quite fond of, the
glamour and irony of swanky settings that mix the high
and low life. My point was simply that it is
pretentious and presumptuous to exclude or belittle
people who may have just come from work on their
dinner break because they had to get a little dancing
in. And that some of us would much rather dance with
a bunch of soulful people in their pajamas than a team
of well-groomed, technically proficient, judgemental
"maestros"
Kat
--- Derik Rawson <rawsonweb@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> Dear Ket:
>
> This is not about elitism. It is about depth of
> experience. Most people with bad taste are that way
> because they lack knowledge. They can improve their
> taste through education, just like anyone else. If
> they refuse and critize others, then they can
> become
> the worst of snobs.
>
> Argentine Tango is all about surprises. It is about
> contrasts and even shocking things. It is not for
> people who are afraid to grow, whether they are in
> high society or not. Life makes no sense at all and
> tango clarifies that nicely....lol. As a beautiful
> girl from California once told me in Paris. "Tango
> is
> all about life's ironies." I think that she is
> absolutely right.
>
> One reason that tango is exciting, especially in
> Europe, is that a street dance from
> Lunfardo-speaking
> criminal gangs in Buenos Aires is usually performed
> in
> Europe by dancers in suits and black tie in
> beautiful
> old world palaces or on a mountain top overlooking
> the
> sea. The surprise of the earthy dance and the
> beautiful settings is a contrast of the highest
> order.
> The total effect is a wild ride. For me it is a bit
> like watching Jame Bond in a tuxedo in the beautiful
> casinos of Monte Carlo behave like a low life
> gangster, while wearing a white coat summer
> tuxedo....holding his Martini...shaken, not
> stired...lol. In the US, we are missing all this
> beautiful high drama by having events in dance
> studios
> and hotels and not dressing up for fun.
>
> For me, Argentine Tango is all about good taste.
> For
> this reason it should be complex and very
> interesting,
> just like a good wine. It should not be made simple
> and easy for snobs of any kind. It should remain
> complex for people who really enjoy life and are
> looking for some real adventure. Limiting oneself
> in
> Argentine Tango is not an option. My opinion.
>
> Derik
> d.rawson@rawsonweb.com
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 09:58:49 -0800
From: Derik Rawson <rawsonweb@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: Most people with bad taste are that way because they lack knowledge.
Dear Kat:
I agree with you completely. I danced with a Polish
girl, Sylvia, a few months ago, who went barefoot at a
milonga because she fogot to bring her high heels.
She was a terrific tango dancer anyway. Her soul was
in the dance. It is the ironies that make life
interesting.
Derik
d.rawson@rawsonweb.com
--- Kat <hellkat_13@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> Dear Derik,
>
> You're right, it's not about elitism, it's about
> narrow-mindedness. Most people that are snobs are
> that way because they fear the unknown. They can
> widen their appreciation of the world around them if
> they step out of the isolated bubble they're living
> in
> for ten minutes, just like anybody else. I just
> think
> it's absurd that snobs believe that they can be the
> end-all arbiters of good taste.
>
> Fwiw, I'm familiar with, and quite fond of, the
> glamour and irony of swanky settings that mix the
> high
> and low life. My point was simply that it is
> pretentious and presumptuous to exclude or belittle
> people who may have just come from work on their
> dinner break because they had to get a little
> dancing
> in. And that some of us would much rather dance
> with
> a bunch of soulful people in their pajamas than a
> team
> of well-groomed, technically proficient, judgemental
> "maestros"
>
> Kat
>
> --- Derik Rawson <rawsonweb@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
>
> > Dear Ket:
> >
> > This is not about elitism. It is about depth of
> > experience. Most people with bad taste are that
> way
> > because they lack knowledge. They can improve
> their
> > taste through education, just like anyone else.
> If
> > they refuse and critize others, then they can
> > become
> > the worst of snobs.
> >
> > Argentine Tango is all about surprises. It is
> about
> > contrasts and even shocking things. It is not for
> > people who are afraid to grow, whether they are in
> > high society or not. Life makes no sense at all
> and
> > tango clarifies that nicely....lol. As a
> beautiful
> > girl from California once told me in Paris. "Tango
> > is
> > all about life's ironies." I think that she is
> > absolutely right.
> >
> > One reason that tango is exciting, especially in
> > Europe, is that a street dance from
> > Lunfardo-speaking
> > criminal gangs in Buenos Aires is usually
> performed
> > in
> > Europe by dancers in suits and black tie in
> > beautiful
> > old world palaces or on a mountain top overlooking
> > the
> > sea. The surprise of the earthy dance and the
> > beautiful settings is a contrast of the highest
> > order.
> > The total effect is a wild ride. For me it is a
> bit
> > like watching Jame Bond in a tuxedo in the
> beautiful
> > casinos of Monte Carlo behave like a low life
> > gangster, while wearing a white coat summer
> > tuxedo....holding his Martini...shaken, not
> > stired...lol. In the US, we are missing all this
> > beautiful high drama by having events in dance
> > studios
> > and hotels and not dressing up for fun.
> >
> > For me, Argentine Tango is all about good taste.
> > For
> > this reason it should be complex and very
> > interesting,
> > just like a good wine. It should not be made
> simple
> > and easy for snobs of any kind. It should remain
> > complex for people who really enjoy life and are
> > looking for some real adventure. Limiting oneself
> > in
> > Argentine Tango is not an option. My opinion.
> >
> > Derik
> > d.rawson@rawsonweb.com
>
> protection around
>
>
