4402 off topic: sky blue and white stripes...
Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2006 00:50:13 +0900
From: "astrid" <astrid@ruby.plala.or.jp>
Subject: [Tango-L] off topic: sky blue and white stripes...
To: <tango-l@mit.edu>
Good God, did you guys see that game of Argentina vs. Serbia? Everybody in
the Irish pub I was in ended up almost doing somersaults themselves...
Is 6:0 a first in the history of soccer?
you'll allow me going off topic this once, will you?
Astrid
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 09:33:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: Rick Jones <rwjones52@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] off topic: sky blue and white stripes...
To: tango-l@mit.edu
astrid <astrid@ruby.plala.or.jp> wrote:Everybody in the Irish pub I was in ended up almost doing somersaults themselves...
Would that be social somersaults, or show somersaults?
And while we're at it, let's have a debate on just what, exactly, social somersaults are...
And does anyone want to write a prelude to a somersault aesthetic?
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 17:39:52 -0400
From: "WHITE 95 R" <white95r@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] off topic: sky blue and white stripes...
To: rwjones52@yahoo.com, tango-l@mit.edu
Social somersaults are done with feelings and passion. They are not done for
the audience but only for the inner bliss. These somersaults are done always
in a close embrace, leaning forward in a chest to chest position. They never
appear fancy or showy and consist basically of very small movements. They
never will feature a complete turn. These are truly the only true and
authentic somersaults and are the predominant somersaults at huge events
where only no name instructors teach the zen of somersaulting and all the
best somersaulters go to do their somersaults. These are very easy to tell
apart from the others as they are listed with * (asterisks) next to them.
The show somersaults are just that. Unnecessarily showy and contrived
somersaults performed by travelling professional somersaulters. These
somersaults are soulless, empty caricatures of the real somersault. They are
principally found in places where master somersaulters teach their
complicated routines to newcomers to somersaulting who then proceed to do
these showy somersaults in the most innapropriate manner and interfere with
the true somersaulting spirit in all possible ways. Look for double or
triple flips, contrived appearance of body control and other ostentatious
displays of physical prowess and technique.
with tongue firmly in cheek,
Manuel
>From: Rick Jones <rwjones52@yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: rwjones52@yahoo.com
>To: tango-l@mit.edu
>Subject: Re: [Tango-L] off topic: sky blue and white stripes...
>Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 09:33:25 -0700 (PDT)
>
>astrid <astrid@ruby.plala.or.jp> wrote:Everybody in the Irish pub I was in
>ended up almost doing somersaults themselves...
>
>
>Would that be social somersaults, or show somersaults?
>
>And while we're at it, let's have a debate on just what, exactly, social
>somersaults are...
>
>And does anyone want to write a prelude to a somersault aesthetic?
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 15:07:31 -0700
From: "Igor Polk" <ipolk@virtuar.com>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] off topic: sky blue and white stripes...
To: <tango-l@mit.edu>
Manuel,
What if I am very strong. If I like powerful movements, force, and
acceleration?
When I want to jump high, embrace tight, break sharp, and position low?
What if I like to make a turn in 2 wide steps and torque my body in 180
degrees?
If I like to make 4 steps in one count?
And I do not care more about the audience than you?
And me and my partners enjoy precisely that.
Do you live me the right for my pleasure?
Igor.
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 18:38:59 -0400
From: mallpasso@aol.com
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] off topic: sky blue and white stripes...
To: ipolk@virtuar.com, tango-l@mit.edu
Igor:
Unless you're dancing with an Amazon or Marquis de Sade's mistress, I doubt many women
want to be manhandled or dance with you... LOL
El Bandido de Tango
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 15:07:31 -0700
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] off topic: sky blue and white stripes...
Manuel,
What if I am very strong. If I like powerful movements, force, and
acceleration?
When I want to jump high, embrace tight, break sharp, and position low?
What if I like to make a turn in 2 wide steps and torque my body in 180
degrees?
If I like to make 4 steps in one count?
And I do not care more about the audience than you?
And me and my partners enjoy precisely that.
Do you live me the right for my pleasure?
Igor.
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Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 16:18:23 -0700
From: "Ed Doyle" <doyleed@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] off topic: sky blue and white stripes...
To: "WHITE 95 R" <white95r@hotmail.com>
Cc: rwjones52@yahoo.com, tango-l@mit.edu
<183484970606161618t461c168at925e3a0d37539747@mail.gmail.com>
Astrid - What have you done? :-))
Ed
On 6/16/06, WHITE 95 R <white95r@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Social somersaults are done with feelings and passion. They are not done
> for
> the audience but only for the inner bliss. These somersaults are done
> always
> in a close embrace, leaning forward in a chest to chest position. They
> never
> appear fancy or showy and consist basically of very small movements. They
> never will feature a complete turn. These are truly the only true and
> authentic somersaults and are the predominant somersaults at huge events
> where only no name instructors teach the zen of somersaulting and all the
> best somersaulters go to do their somersaults. These are very easy to tell
> apart from the others as they are listed with * (asterisks) next to them.
>
> The show somersaults are just that. Unnecessarily showy and contrived
> somersaults performed by travelling professional somersaulters. These
> somersaults are soulless, empty caricatures of the real somersault. They
> are
> principally found in places where master somersaulters teach their
> complicated routines to newcomers to somersaulting who then proceed to do
> these showy somersaults in the most innapropriate manner and interfere
> with
> the true somersaulting spirit in all possible ways. Look for double or
> triple flips, contrived appearance of body control and other ostentatious
> displays of physical prowess and technique.
>
> with tongue firmly in cheek,
>
> Manuel
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: Rick Jones <rwjones52@yahoo.com>
> >Reply-To: rwjones52@yahoo.com
> >To: tango-l@mit.edu
> >Subject: Re: [Tango-L] off topic: sky blue and white stripes...
> >Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 09:33:25 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >astrid <astrid@ruby.plala.or.jp> wrote:Everybody in the Irish pub I was
> in
> >ended up almost doing somersaults themselves...
> >
> >
> >Would that be social somersaults, or show somersaults?
> >
> >And while we're at it, let's have a debate on just what, exactly, social
> >somersaults are...
> >
> >And does anyone want to write a prelude to a somersault aesthetic?
>
>
>
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 19:34:25 -0400
From: "TangoDC.com" <spatz@tangoDC.com>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] off topic: sky blue and white stripes...
To: tango-L@mit.edu
In my view, the only authentic somersaults are those done while wearing
Comme il Fauts.
Spatz
DC
Ed Doyle wrote:
> Astrid - What have you done? :-))
>
> Ed
>
>
> On 6/16/06, WHITE 95 R <white95r@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Social somersaults are done with feelings and passion. They are not done
>> for
>> the audience but only for the inner bliss. These somersaults are done
>> always
>> in a close embrace, leaning forward in a chest to chest position. They
>> never
>> appear fancy or showy and consist basically of very small movements. They
>> never will feature a complete turn. These are truly the only true and
>> authentic somersaults and are the predominant somersaults at huge events
>> where only no name instructors teach the zen of somersaulting and all the
>> best somersaulters go to do their somersaults. These are very easy to tell
>> apart from the others as they are listed with * (asterisks) next to them.
>>
>> The show somersaults are just that. Unnecessarily showy and contrived
>> somersaults performed by travelling professional somersaulters. These
>> somersaults are soulless, empty caricatures of the real somersault. They
>> are
>> principally found in places where master somersaulters teach their
>> complicated routines to newcomers to somersaulting who then proceed to do
>> these showy somersaults in the most innapropriate manner and interfere
>> with
>> the true somersaulting spirit in all possible ways. Look for double or
>> triple flips, contrived appearance of body control and other ostentatious
>> displays of physical prowess and technique.
>>
>> with tongue firmly in cheek,
>>
>> Manuel
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> From: Rick Jones <rwjones52@yahoo.com>
>>> Reply-To: rwjones52@yahoo.com
>>> To: tango-l@mit.edu
>>> Subject: Re: [Tango-L] off topic: sky blue and white stripes...
>>> Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 09:33:25 -0700 (PDT)
>>>
>>> astrid <astrid@ruby.plala.or.jp> wrote:Everybody in the Irish pub I was
>>>
>> in
>>
>>> ended up almost doing somersaults themselves...
>>>
>>>
>>> Would that be social somersaults, or show somersaults?
>>>
>>> And while we're at it, let's have a debate on just what, exactly, social
>>> somersaults are...
>>>
>>> And does anyone want to write a prelude to a somersault aesthetic?
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 20:13:32 -0400
From: mallpasso@aol.com
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] off topic: sky blue and white stripes...
To: spatz@tangoDC.com, tango-L@mit.edu
The leaders, too? Wow, that's pretty kinky... LOL
El Bandido de Tango
-----Original Message-----
Sent: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 19:34:25 -0400
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] off topic: sky blue and white stripes...
In my view, the only authentic somersaults are those done while wearing
Comme il Fauts.
Spatz
DC
Ed Doyle wrote:
> Astrid - What have you done? :-))
>
> Ed
>
>
> On 6/16/06, WHITE 95 R <white95r@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Social somersaults are done with feelings and passion. They are not done
>> for
>> the audience but only for the inner bliss. These somersaults are done
>> always
>> in a close embrace, leaning forward in a chest to chest position. They
>> never
>> appear fancy or showy and consist basically of very small movements. They
>> never will feature a complete turn. These are truly the only true and
>> authentic somersaults and are the predominant somersaults at huge events
>> where only no name instructors teach the zen of somersaulting and all the
>> best somersaulters go to do their somersaults. These are very easy to tell
>> apart from the others as they are listed with * (asterisks) next to them.
>>
>> The show somersaults are just that. Unnecessarily showy and contrived
>> somersaults performed by travelling professional somersaulters. These
>> somersaults are soulless, empty caricatures of the real somersault. They
>> are
>> principally found in places where master somersaulters teach their
>> complicated routines to newcomers to somersaulting who then proceed to do
>> these showy somersaults in the most innapropriate manner and interfere
>> with
>> the true somersaulting spirit in all possible ways. Look for double or
>> triple flips, contrived appearance of body control and other ostentatious
>> displays of physical prowess and technique.
>>
>> with tongue firmly in cheek,
>>
>> Manuel
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> From: Rick Jones <rwjones52@yahoo.com>
>>> Reply-To: rwjones52@yahoo.com
>>> To: tango-l@mit.edu
>>> Subject: Re: [Tango-L] off topic: sky blue and white stripes...
>>> Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 09:33:25 -0700 (PDT)
>>>
>>> astrid <astrid@ruby.plala.or.jp> wrote:Everybody in the Irish pub I was
>>>
>> in
>>
>>> ended up almost doing somersaults themselves...
>>>
>>>
>>> Would that be social somersaults, or show somersaults?
>>>
>>> And while we're at it, let's have a debate on just what, exactly, social
>>> somersaults are...
>>>
>>> And does anyone want to write a prelude to a somersault aesthetic?
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 23:26:02 -0400
From: "WHITE 95 R" <white95r@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] off topic: sky blue and white stripes...
To: ipolk@virtuar.com, tango-l@mit.edu
Goodness gracious Igor. You are a most remarkable man! Please by all means
continue all your girations and dances to your heart's content. You may do
it for yourself, your partner or anybody else (or nobody else). I do not
presume to advise you how to dance. I never have and I hope I never do ;-)
I enjoy your colorful posts as I'm sure I'd enjoy your exciting and colorful
dance as you describe it. I only have good wishes for you and I want nothing
more that for you (and your partners) to live your right to pleasure. I
enjoy what pleasures I get from my life too!!
with warmest regards,
Manuel
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www.tango-rio.com
>From: "Igor Polk" <ipolk@virtuar.com>
>To: <tango-l@mit.edu>
>Subject: Re: [Tango-L] off topic: sky blue and white stripes...
>Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 15:07:31 -0700
>
>Manuel,
>
>What if I am very strong. If I like powerful movements, force, and
>acceleration?
>When I want to jump high, embrace tight, break sharp, and position low?
>What if I like to make a turn in 2 wide steps and torque my body in 180
>degrees?
>If I like to make 4 steps in one count?
>And I do not care more about the audience than you?
>And me and my partners enjoy precisely that.
>
>Do you live me the right for my pleasure?
>
>Igor.
>
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 23:13:36 -0700
From: "Igor Polk" <ipolk@virtuar.com>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] off topic: sky blue and white stripes...
To: <tango-l@mit.edu>
Cc: WHITE 95 R <white95r@hotmail.com>
Thank you, Manuel for your support!
When I read your essay about somersaults I felt negative judgment on the
athletic dance, or dance which looks glamour so to speak. I do not want to
use the word "show". For some reason it has negative tint in some
communities: you know, words have different meaning for everyone depending
on their own vision.
I am glad that I am mistaken and you understand that it is also true good
tango and also is done with feelings and passion.
Funny, some time ago, I considered myself close embrace dancer only. Now I
feel more and more attraction to open embrace styles: slow or fast.
I glad we can leave off unnecessary confrontations on that matter,
Thank you!
Igor.
