5288  Percentage of foreigners in milongas

Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:07:29 -0300
From: "Janis Kenyon" <Jantango@feedback.net.ar>
Subject: [Tango-L] Percentage of foreigners in milongas
To: "Tango-L" <Tango-L@MIT.EDU>

My estimate of foreigners at Nino Bien last Thursday was 95%. I didn't go
around the room and count the portenos. I merely observed the dancing and
didn't see very many locals. I have lived here almost nine years and know
the portenos from the foreigners.

I remember when the portenos outnumbered the foreigners in Nino Bien. The
fact is that portenos cannot afford several nights a week at the milongas as
they did only five years ago.

If foreigners are content to travel to Buenos Aires to dance with other
foreigners, then the trip is worthwhile. If not, they may want to
reconsider. That's the reality of the situation. It's not going back to
the way it was when portenos were the majority in the milongas.

Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:48:52 -0500
From: caroline <runcarolinerun@hotmail.com>
Subject: [Tango-L] Percentage of foreigners in milongas
To: <tango-l@mit.edu>


"My estimate of foreigners at Nino Bien last Thursday was 95%."

Huh...I was there for the month of October. Went to Nino Bien almost every Thursday. And each time, it was only one foreigner I danced with (and the foreigner was a wonderful dancer from Italy who was very popular with the Argentine women) versus multiple local men. I would say overall, it was more or less 50/50.

The more popular the milonga, the more the tourists will go there.

I.E. Gricel on Monday nights, Nino Bien on Thursdays, and Salon Canning on Fridays.

The biggest downside of milongas populated with tourists is not so much their dancing as is the dance floors would get so packed that I would end up going after midnight when it starts to calm down and there is more room on the floor. I've noticed many tourists actually do dance very well and are quite respectful of local customs. Yes, you do get the odd tourist who hasn't got a clue and thus really stand out as someone who is not fitting in very well. I find this applies more to men than to women. But I am quite sure when they go back again and again, they begin to fit in more and more as they become more familiar with the argentine way of dancing and socializing at milongas. It's the first time tourists who just arrived that stand out the most. I would see those same tourists a few weeks later fitting in much better and getting more dances.

Go to those same places on other nights of the week and it's mostly locals, at least 90%.

Caroline
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Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:58:41 -0500
From: WHITE 95 R <white95r@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Percentage of foreigners in milongas
To: Janis Kenyon <jantango@feedback.net.ar>, Tango-L <tango-l@mit.edu>


Would it be fair to say that the level of dancing of the foreigners in he BsAs milongas is higher than in the milongas of their country of origin? I mean to say that perhaps a lot of folks who go to BsAs for tango might be the more dedicated and skilled of tango dancers from the general tango population... Anyway, It might still be fun to go to BsAs to dance tango. I haven't been back in many years and would not know what to expect. Maybe the whole thing is a worthless exercise in futility and the expats should all return to the good old USA and join the amoeba style of dancing ;-)

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> From: Jantango@feedback.net.ar
> To: Tango-L@MIT.EDU
> Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:07:29 -0300
> Subject: [Tango-L] Percentage of foreigners in milongas
>
> My estimate of foreigners at Nino Bien last Thursday was 95%. I didn't go
> around the room and count the portenos. I merely observed the dancing and
> didn't see very many locals. I have lived here almost nine years and know
> the portenos from the foreigners.
>
> I remember when the portenos outnumbered the foreigners in Nino Bien. The
> fact is that portenos cannot afford several nights a week at the milongas as
> they did only five years ago.
>
> If foreigners are content to travel to Buenos Aires to dance with other
> foreigners, then the trip is worthwhile. If not, they may want to
> reconsider. That's the reality of the situation. It's not going back to
> the way it was when portenos were the majority in the milongas.
>
>