5375 plantar fasciitis
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 19:38:38 -0800 (PST)
From: Tango For Her <tangopeer@yahoo.com>
Subject: [Tango-L] plantar fasciitis
Actually, I stretch A LOT. I meant to send the Alexandertechnique links, in general, to the group. Thanks, though. And, by the way, my dancing, too, is night and day different with and without stretching. I learned that really early on.
However, if anyone has heard of any miracle breakthroughs with plantar fasciitis, I would love to hear about them. I've been, pretty much, on the sidelines for about 6 years, now, because of that. I've spent about $4000, too. So, if there are any ideas out there, let me know!
I'm lucky that there is an incredible dancer nearby who is very light and very quick to react so we move with such precision that I can dance one night every couple of weeks with her. We have this perfect connection with, get this, no lean! It gets pretty frustrating. At least, when I can dance, she saves the night for me. I actually had to take a few years off.
So, if anyone has heard of anything major, let me know!
Thanks
"Trini y Sean (PATangoS)" <patangos@yahoo.com> wrote:
Here's a good one with a lot of articles.
https://www.alexandertechnique.com/
If you're ever in Pittsburgh, I can introduce you to our
Alexander Technique teacher, who also dances tango very
well.
Trini de Pittsburgh
--- Tango For Her wrote:
> I used to hear people talking about the Alexander
> Technique. I never studied it, though. Anyone have good
> links to pass along (and label the post "Alexander
> Technique"?
>
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Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 14:33:37 -0800 (PST)
From: steve pastor <tang0man2005@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] plantar fasciitis
I went through a bout of this a few years ago.I'm kind of curious as to
what you've spent $4,000 on, because I was able to get over it relatively
inexpensively.
Care to elaborate about what you've done so far?
Tango For Her <tangopeer@yahoo.com> wrote:
Actually, I stretch A LOT. I meant to send the Alexandertechnique links, in general, to the group. Thanks, though. And, by the way, my dancing, too, is night and day different with and without stretching. I learned that really early on.
However, if anyone has heard of any miracle breakthroughs with plantar fasciitis, I would love to hear about them. I've been, pretty much, on the sidelines for about 6 years, now, because of that. I've spent about $4000, too. So, if there are any ideas out there, let me know!
I'm lucky that there is an incredible dancer nearby who is very light and very quick to react so we move with such precision that I can dance one night every couple of weeks with her. We have this perfect connection with, get this, no lean! It gets pretty frustrating. At least, when I can dance, she saves the night for me. I actually had to take a few years off.
So, if anyone has heard of anything major, let me know!
Thanks
"Trini y Sean (PATangoS)"
wrote:
Here's a good one with a lot of articles.
https://www.alexandertechnique.com/
If you're ever in Pittsburgh, I can introduce you to our
Alexander Technique teacher, who also dances tango very
well.
Trini de Pittsburgh
--- Tango For Her wrote:
> I used to hear people talking about the Alexander
> Technique. I never studied it, though. Anyone have good
> links to pass along (and label the post "Alexander
> Technique"?
>
PATangoS - Pittsburgh Argentine Tango Society
Our Mission: To make Argentine Tango Pittsburgh?s most popular social dance!
https://patangos.home.comcast.net/
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Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 17:05:01 -0700 (MST)
From: Huck Kennedy <huck@eninet.eas.asu.edu>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] plantar fasciitis
To: tango-l@mit.edu
Some guy without a name (Tango For Her) <tangopeer@yahoo.com> writes:
> However, if anyone has heard of any miracle breakthroughs
> with plantar fasciitis, I would love to hear about them.
> I've been, pretty much, on the sidelines for about 6 years,
> now, because of that. I've spent about $4000, too. So,
> if there are any ideas out there, let me know!
Dance in Argentine dance (not dress) shoes with
the higher heel that most Argentine male dancers order.
This tends to put more weight on your heel instead
of the ball of the foot, or worse, the arch. Also,
take any opportunity you can while dancing to put
weight on your heels. You don't have to lean back to
do this, it can still be done while leaning forward.
Engage your calf muscles.
For women, the worse thing you can do is to
wear dance sneakers and dance around with your heels
up off the ground. Wear heeled shoes with solid
support, and USE THE HEELS as much as possible.
Huck House, MD
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 17:49:46 -0800 (PST)
From: Tango For Her <tangopeer@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] plantar fasciitis
$4,000? Well, $1,000 was actually covered by insurance and that was for a .... ugh, I'm drawing a blank. Not a catscan, petscan or x-ray. The other one. They saw nothing.
I didn't have insurance for the first few years. I went to three doctors. The first was one the Boston Ballet's doctors. He made some orthotics and had me come back a few times to adjust them. I wish he had just told me to get off my feet for a few months. But, being a Taurus, I was stubborn and was insisting that I needed to stay on my feet to make money teaching. Dumb!
I also had A LOT of accupuncture, in the beginning. But, again, I wasn't getting off my feet.
I've had 2 doctors since then. After about $1000, each, I quit going. The typical things they would do over and over and over, again, included adjusting special made orthotics, ultrasound, wrapping my foot, and e-stim. I'm probably forgetting something.
I tried a walking boot and my foot was in agony. I've worn a boot to bed, too.
For a few years, my foot was so bad that I would have to ice it, repeatedly, if I just went to the supermarket.
Then, 2 years ago, I put myself on crutches for about 3 months. That was the best relief I had. I hadn't danced for a few years before that.
Since then, I dance a bit, here and there. Whenever I carry anything slightly heavy, it gets irritated for weeks. I workout my upper body 3 times a week, pretty hard. But, anything with my legs, until just recently, hurt too much.
I've been wearing a strausburg sock at night. That is actually what allows me to dance a little. It helps a lot. But, it isn't nearly enough.
I've been using Capzasin (arthritis pain relief) which seems to help.
Ice, ice and more ice.
I have dance shoes specially made in Argentina for my feet. Thich soles and the toes drop down, which really helps.
I've resorted, recently, to wearing a brand of orthotics called Superfeet(r). They feel better than anything the doctors gave me.
I had was referred to a chiropractor who uses a lasor. The woman who referred me had a lot of improvement (later to become reinjurred). I went for a free introductory visit. He used the lasor. It was red and warm. Woooooo. He said I could come for as many visits as it takes for $1100. I said, fix my foot and I'll give you $3000! No deal.
It seems that doctors are into their specialties to make money. After about $1000, they know you will grow wiery. And, they always have the people who probably would have healed, anyway, as their afidavits. Yes, I have become negative. But, I really can see how they don't cross train. They have their couple of things that they do and that's it. It's a business.
I've heard of the high frequency bombardment and got an email about it, this week. It seemed kind of scary. But, maybe, I'm warming up to it.
I don't want to go to a surgeon, because, I know a nurse that works for one who told me that ... well, it's sick the number of people that they refer for surgery that she thinks don't really need it.
Anyway, $1000 doesn't go very far when a doctor is just doing the same thing, with variations, over and over, again.
You asked!
Oh, and I roll my foot on a bottle of ice whenever it gets bad.
steve pastor <tang0man2005@yahoo.com> wrote:
I went through a bout of this a few years ago.I'm kind of curious as to
what you've spent $4,000 on, because I was able to get over it relatively
inexpensively.
Care to elaborate about what you've done so far?
Tango For Her wrote:
Actually, I stretch A LOT. I meant to send the Alexandertechnique links, in general, to the group. Thanks, though. And, by the way, my dancing, too, is night and day different with and without stretching. I learned that really early on.
However, if anyone has heard of any miracle breakthroughs with plantar fasciitis, I would love to hear about them. I've been, pretty much, on the sidelines for about 6 years, now, because of that. I've spent about $4000, too. So, if there are any ideas out there, let me know!
I'm lucky that there is an incredible dancer nearby who is very light and very quick to react so we move with such precision that I can dance one night every couple of weeks with her. We have this perfect connection with, get this, no lean! It gets pretty frustrating. At least, when I can dance, she saves the night for me. I actually had to take a few years off.
So, if anyone has heard of anything major, let me know!
Thanks
"Trini y Sean (PATangoS)"
wrote:
Here's a good one with a lot of articles.
https://www.alexandertechnique.com/
If you're ever in Pittsburgh, I can introduce you to our
Alexander Technique teacher, who also dances tango very
well.
Trini de Pittsburgh
--- Tango For Her wrote:
> I used to hear people talking about the Alexander
> Technique. I never studied it, though. Anyone have good
> links to pass along (and label the post "Alexander
> Technique"?
>
PATangoS - Pittsburgh Argentine Tango Society
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Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 12:01:23 -0800 (PST)
From: steve pastor <tang0man2005@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] plantar fasciitis
I healed completely, thank goodness, because, I think, I took what
I read and was told, to heart.
Having had both a badly strained hamstring, and tendonitiis on the outside
of my foot (brevis), I had perhaps learned my lesson.
I am convinced that for the most part, our bodies are really what heals us,
and that usually, what doctors tell us to do facilitates what our bodies
already are capable of doing.
From "The Dancer's Foot Book":
"Treatment includes resting the affected area. Removing weight bearing is
also helpful."
From "Take Care of Yourself - The Complete Illustrated Guide to Medical
Self-Care":
"Give your feet as much rest as possible for a week or so. ... "get shoes with
adequate arch supports and flexible soles. A one quarter inch heel pad is a
good idea. Some people need to wear only well padded running shoes. Lace
the top two eyelets very firmly to take some pressure off of your ligaments."
Use orthotic...
Here's the bad news...
"Be very patient. This problem can take a year or more to go away."
I am pretty sure that I was told to never go bare foot. Never. Always
wear properly laced, supportive shoes.
And, I was lucky that a podiatrist had told be about Superfeet when I had the
tendonitis. I now have them in most of my shoes. The blue ones fit quite
nicely, and inconspicuously, in the shoes I wear for tango.
I am pretty sure that I was told to take ibuprofen for the inflamation.
You do all these things so that your body can repair the damage that is causing
the pain. But if you continue putting the same pressures on that part of your foot,
you keep undoing any progress your body might make.
My dancing is a big part of my life, and it was really tough to have to not do it
for a while, then have to ease back into it. I kept going out and enjoying the
social aspect of it, and listened to the music, and watched the other people...
Sounds like you've got it quite bad, so it will probably take longer for your body
to repair the damage. You have got to give your body time to fix this.
"Be very patient. This problem can take a year or more to go away."
Sorry, no miracle cures.
Good Luck.
Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2007 13:15:57 -0800
From: Brian Tomasini <colormetango@hotmail.com>
Subject: [Tango-L] MISC: Plantar Fasciitis Article
To: <tango-l@mit.edu>
Greetings list, The following article was forwarded my way last year by Sean of Monterey:ScienceDaily November 3, 2006 Heel to Heal: New Stretch Relieves Pain From Plantar Fasciitis. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/11/061101150739.htm
Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2007 12:11:49 -0500 (EST)
From: Elizabeth Seyler <eseyler@temple.edu>
Subject: [Tango-L] plantar fasciitis
To: tango-l@mit.edu
Hello friend. I was a tap dancer in my 30s when I had plantar
fasciitis, and it took two years to recover. I haven't read
all the responses to your posting, so forgive me if you've
already heard these suggestions, but the two most helpful
things I did were:
1. gentle yoga 3 times a week to keep my legs and feet strong
and flexible, and
2. wearing a splint to keep my foot gently flexed while sleeping.
I still do yoga regularly to keep the fasciitis from returning
(and for many other reasons). The splint I use once in a
while if my foot starts to tighten. It is not painful at all,
and with a pillow under my knee, I sleep fine after a night of
getting used to it. When I first had the fasciitis, I felt
relief from the splint after a few days. Fascia and muscles
tend to contract while we sleep, making walking painful in the
morning. Keeping the foot flexed overnight reduces this
process. You can find them many places. Here's one much like
the one I used:
https://www.footsmart.com/P-Night-Splint-Passive-FootSmart-10097.aspx
Don't give up. Imagine the feeling of walking and dancing
pain free. Your thoughts are very, very powerful. Best wishes.
-Elizabeth
