5421 Rhythm breaks at 3 1/2 hour milongas
Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 09:04:50 -0800 (PST)
From: Tango For Her <tangopeer@yahoo.com>
Subject: [Tango-L] Rhythm breaks at 3 1/2 hour milongas
To: tango-L@mit.edu
I have noticed the following at a particular milonga:
- The milonga runs from 9 pm til 12:30 am.
- At 11 pm, a milonga tanda is played
followed by a latin rhythm break.
- At 11 pm, a lot of dancers get up to leave.
Many followers don't dance latin dances.
Many followers are less likely to be asked to dance a
milonga.
Many followers have a lengthy trip home.
With that combination, many followers start leaving at
11 pm.
The length of time for a milonga tanda plus a rhythm
break is long enough that the milonga significantly
clears out!
Some people who like the latin dances say the
side-effect is insignificant.
I am usually eyeing followers that I want to catch
before the end of the night and, puff, they're gone.
I am not looking for responses that blame the
followers who leave early!
Thoughts?
- Is a rhythm break needed at a 3 1/2 hour milonga?
- Is the combination of a milonga tanda with a rhythm
break appropriate at a 3 1/2 hour milonga?
Again, I pose these questions given that a great
number of people do leave at this time. I am not
arguing to stop the rhythm breaks, just to illuminate
what happens.
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Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2008 12:47:12 EST
From: Crrtango@aol.com
Subject: [Tango-L] rhythm breaks
To: tango-l@mit.edu
tangopeer wrote:
<<- The milonga runs from 9 pm til 12:30 am.
- At 11 pm, a milonga tanda is played
? followed by a latin rhythm break.
- At 11 pm, a lot of dancers get up to leave.>>
I am surprised they waited that long before leaving. What a weird way to
space out the songs. No milongas for two hours!? Do they at least play any
waltzes?
<<- Is a rhythm break needed at a 3 1/2 hour milonga?
- Is the combination of a milonga tanda with a rhythm
break appropriate at a 3 1/2 hour milonga?>>
Nothing wrong with a rhythm break, but why include the milongas with it? Not
only is that overkill for the rhythm break but implies that the milongas are
different from the other tangos. It is still tango. The rhythm break should be
different music, not mixed with more tangos. Sounds like the rhythm break is
chasing them away and I can't blame them for leaving. I think they should get
another DJ. (I am not being facetious.) I realize every community is different,
but people here in NYC would probably leave even before the rhythm break.
Thanks for warning us.
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Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 18:06 +0000 (GMT Standard Time)
From: "Chris, UK" <tl2@chrisjj.com>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Rhythm breaks at 3 1/2 hour milongas
Cc: tl2@chrisjj.com
> Some people who like the latin dances say the
> side-effect is insignificant.
I suggest that in deciding whether to play latin breaks, tango DJs should
take their lead from latin DJs.
E.g. In one tango evening I play as many salsa breaks as the typical salsa
DJ hereabouts plays tango breaks. ;)
--
Chris
Date: Sat, 05 Jan 2008 13:21:21 -0500
From: Carol Shepherd <arborlaw@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Rhythm breaks at 3 1/2 hour milongas
Don't be makin so much fun of this. We had a salsa and swing night here
in the Detroit area which ran for 3+ years and the DJs played an
argentine tango set twice per evening.
As the club owner remarked: "We love the tango music. That's when
everyone hits the bar to re-order."
(The night was very popular and was cancelled for other reasons having
to do with a death in the club on 'bootay' night.)
Chris, UK wrote:
>> Some people who like the latin dances say the
>> side-effect is insignificant.
>
> I suggest that in deciding whether to play latin breaks, tango DJs should
> take their lead from latin DJs.
>
> E.g. In one tango evening I play as many salsa breaks as the typical salsa
> DJ hereabouts plays tango breaks. ;)
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Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 18:52:16 -0500 (EST)
From: Miguel Canals <elpibemc1961@yahoo.ca>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Rhythm breaks at 3 1/2 hour milongas
--- Carol Shepherd <arborlaw@comcast.net> wrote:
> As the club owner remarked: "We love the tango
> music. That's when
> everyone hits the bar to re-order."
That's what long cortinas (1 minute or longer) are
for.
As for the DJ, that kills the milonga with a milonga +
latin break. Is the milonga still around?
Good DJs control the build up of the atmosphere in a
milonga as the night progresses, building up intensity
and then letting it relax, and then up again until it
hit a peak at the "optimum" hour. To me, the optimum
hours of the 9-12:30 milonga is somewhere between
10:30 to 12:00. If the best dancing hour is broken up
by a long break, you probably won't see me there much.
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Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2008 17:41:34 -0800 (PST)
From: Tango For Her <tangopeer@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Rhythm breaks at 3 1/2 hour milongas
> As for the DJ, that kills the milonga with a milonga
> +
> latin break. Is the milonga still around?
>
Actually, the milonga attracts some of the better
dancers. So, definitely, it's still around. I just
wrote about it to see what others find that people
leave at other milongas when that happens. Everyone
here seems to think that the long break is fine.
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