4862  Women Tango Teachers

Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 20:09:22 -0300
From: Deby Novitz <dnovitz@lavidacondeby.com>
Subject: [Tango-L] Women Tango Teachers
To: tango-l@mit.edu

In Buenos Aires Mimi Santapa has been teaching both men and women for
over 30 years - without a partner. Her lead is better than the majority
of men. She learned to dance both parts when she was 4 years old from
her father. There are many women teachers that are excellent who do not
have partners. If you really understand and know the professional
community here you would understand that in a group of 100
professionals, 70 are women, 30 are men. Of the women, maybe 50 dance
and teach well, of the 30 men, maybe 10. So you are talking about 10
men for 70 women.

Look at them; Ana Maria Shapera, Myriam Pincen, Susana Miller, Graciela
Gonzales, Alicia Pons...all excellent and without male partners. There
are many more strong women teachers.

You will get no argument from the women here that the majority of the
bailarins (males) are arrogant, machista, and difficult to work with.
This is why many women choose to teach alone. They can stand on their
own reputation and do well without a male partner.


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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 02:50 +0100 (BST)
From: "Chris, UK" <tl2@chrisjj.com>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Women Tango Teachers
Cc: tl2@chrisjj.com

Deby wrote:

> If you really understand and know the professional community here
> you would understand that in a group of 100 professionals, 70 are
> women, 30 are men.

Even if you don't "really understand and know the professional community"
here in Europe, you can still count 'em. And the numbers show...

... we have pretty much the same problem.

> Her lead is better than the majority of men.

Hereabouts it is not easy to convince the average guy seeking to learn to
dance like a real man that he should take lessons from a pretend man.

--
Chris

PS Randy wrote:

> Nora Dinzelbacker working with Richard Powers were the creators of
> what has caused the explosion of Tango festivals world wide.

What planet are you on, Randy? ;)












-------- Original Message --------

*Subject:* [Tango-L] Women Tango Teachers
*From:* Deby Novitz <dnovitz@lavidacondeby.com>
*To:* tango-l@mit.edu
*Date:* Mon, 26 Mar 2007 20:09:22 -0300

In Buenos Aires Mimi Santapa has been teaching both men and women for
over 30 years - without a partner. Her lead is better than the majority
of men. She learned to dance both parts when she was 4 years old from
her father. There are many women teachers that are excellent who do not
have partners. If you really understand and know the professional
community here you would understand that in a group of 100
professionals, 70 are women, 30 are men. Of the women, maybe 50 dance
and teach well, of the 30 men, maybe 10. So you are talking about 10
men for 70 women.

Look at them; Ana Maria Shapera, Myriam Pincen, Susana Miller, Graciela
Gonzales, Alicia Pons...all excellent and without male partners. There
are many more strong women teachers.

You will get no argument from the women here that the majority of the
bailarins (males) are arrogant, machista, and difficult to work with.
This is why many women choose to teach alone. They can stand on their
own reputation and do well without a male partner.


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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 09:13:23 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Trini y Sean (PATangoS)" <patangos@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Women Tango Teachers

Interesting. One would not know that on this side of the
equator.

Putting aside Alicia, Susana, Luciana, and Cecilia who
travel, would you say that the women are as successful as
the men in getting work?

Trini

--- Deby Novitz <dnovitz@lavidacondeby.com> wrote:

> In Buenos Aires Mimi Santapa has been teaching both men
> and women for
> over 30 years - without a partner. Her lead is better
> than the majority
> of men. She learned to dance both parts when she was 4
> years old from
> her father. There are many women teachers that are
> excellent who do not
> have partners. If you really understand and know the
> professional
> community here you would understand that in a group of
> 100
> professionals, 70 are women, 30 are men. Of the women,
> maybe 50 dance
> and teach well, of the 30 men, maybe 10. So you are
> talking about 10
> men for 70 women.
>
> Look at them; Ana Maria Shapera, Myriam Pincen, Susana
> Miller, Graciela
> Gonzales, Alicia Pons...all excellent and without male
> partners. There
> are many more strong women teachers.
>
> You will get no argument from the women here that the
> majority of the
> bailarins (males) are arrogant, machista, and difficult
> to work with.
> This is why many women choose to teach alone. They can
> stand on their
> own reputation and do well without a male partner.
>

PATangoS - Pittsburgh Argentine Tango Society
Our Mission: To make Argentine Tango Pittsburgh's most popular social dance.
https://patangos.home.comcast.net/




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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 15:50:22 -0500
From: "Lois Donnay" <donnay@donnay.net>
Subject: Re: [Tango-L] Women Tango Teachers

Believe me, sexism is very much alive in the teaching world. Certainly
everyone has seen it. One example: A female teacher gets an assistant, and
all of a sudden the perception is that HE's the teacher and she's the
assistant.

A female teacher has to be a great lead AND a great follow. How many male
teachers even bother to learn how to lead?

Lois Donnay
Minneapolis, MN

Interesting. One would not know that on this side of the
equator.

Putting aside Alicia, Susana, Luciana, and Cecilia who
travel, would you say that the women are as successful as
the men in getting work?

Trini

--- Deby Novitz <dnovitz at lavidacondeby.com> wrote:

> In Buenos Aires Mimi Santapa has been teaching both men
> and women for
> over 30 years - without a partner. Her lead is better
> than the majority
> of men. She learned to dance both parts when she was 4
> years old from
> her father. There are many women teachers that are
> excellent who do not
> have partners. If you really understand and know the
> professional
> community here you would understand that in a group of
> 100
> professionals, 70 are women, 30 are men. Of the women,
> maybe 50 dance
> and teach well, of the 30 men, maybe 10. So you are
> talking about 10
> men for 70 women.
>
> Look at them; Ana Maria Shapera, Myriam Pincen, Susana
> Miller, Graciela
> Gonzales, Alicia Pons...all excellent and without male
> partners. There
> are many more strong women teachers.
>
> You will get no argument from the women here that the
> majority of the
> bailarins (males) are arrogant, machista, and difficult
> to work with.
> This is why many women choose to teach alone. They can
> stand on their
> own reputation and do well without a male partner.