2583 How many Tango-L posters does it take to change a light bulb?
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 03:47:08 -0700
From: Peter <peterz53@COMCAST.NET>
Subject: How many Tango-L posters does it take to change a light bulb?
As enjoyed at another site:
No flames please, it's humor; and relevant in so far as it it seems to
reflect(in an, admittedly, somewhat teasing way) a not insignificant
amount of the activity I have observed here, lo these many years. To wit:
*How many Tango-L posters**(sic)** does it takes to change a light bulb? *
1 to change the light bulb and to post that the light bulb has been changed
14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the
light bulb could have been changed differently
7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs
1 to move it to the Lighting section
2 to argue then move it to the Electricals section
7 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing light bulbs
5 to flame the spell checkers
3 to correct spelling/grammar flames
6 to argue over whether it's "lightbulb" or "light bulb" ... another 6
to condemn those 6 as stupid
2 industry professionals to inform the group that the proper term is "lamp"
15 know-it-alls who claim they were in the industry, and that "light
bulb" is perfectly correct
19 to post that this forum is not about light bulbs and to please take
this discussion to a lightbulb forum
11 to defend the posting to this forum saying that we all use light
bulbs and therefore the posts are relevant to this forum
36 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where to
buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for this
technique and what brands are faulty
7 to post URL's where one can see examples of different light bulbs
4 to post that the URL's were posted incorrectly and then post the
corrected URL's
3 to post about links they found from the URL's that are relevant to
this group which makes light bulbs relevant to this group
13 to link all posts to date, quote them in their entirety including all
headers and signatures, and add "Me too"
5 to post to the group that they will no longer post because they cannot
handle the light bulb controversy
4 to say "didn't we go through this already a short time ago?"
13 to say "do a Google search on light bulbs before posting questions
about light bulbs"
1 forum lurker to respond to the original post 6 months from now and
start it all over again.
Abrazos________Peter
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 11:28:13 EDT
From: LGMoseley@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: How many Tango-L posters does it take to change a light bulb?
Answer:
None. They will tell you that changing a lightbulb is merely a technical
operation, and it misses out the arty-farty (poetic, spiritual, political,
eyes-closed etc.) centre of the true Tango aficionado. In any case, having a
knowledge of electricity disqualifies you from having any feelings and, therefore,
from being a true Tanguero/a.
Laurie
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 12:24:16 -0400
From: Neeraj Korde <nkorde@UMICH.EDU>
Subject: Re: How many Tango-L posters does it take to change a light bulb?
Laurie says...
>In any case, having a
> knowledge of electricity disqualifies you from having any feelings and, therefore,
> from being a true Tanguero/a.
Oh no it doesn't, come to a college town and u will see that most
tangueros are engineers, post-docs, scientists, research fellows and even
professors, hardly any arty-farty guys. I wonder why... maybe leading in
tango
requires some thinking and not just dumbass rehearsal of moves like in
some 'other' dances.
Neeraj Korde
======================
University of Michigan
Mechanical Engineering
======================
> Laurie
>
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 12:33:20 EDT
From: LGMoseley@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: How many Tango-L posters does it take to change a light bulb?
My apologies. I thought that I was being crude - but apparently I was being
too subtle. . The original riddle was not about Tangueros, but about Tango-L
posters. Of course, I agree entirely with what Neeraj has said. I am myself a
computer scientist
Laurie
In a message dated 28/07/2004 17:26:44 GMT Daylight Time, nkorde@UMICH.EDU
writes:
> Laurie says...
> >In any case, having a
> >knowledge of electricity disqualifies you from having any feelings and,
> therefore,
> >from being a true Tanguero/a.
> Oh no it doesn't, come to a college town and u will see that most
> tangueros are engineers, post-docs, scientists, research fellows and even
> professors, hardly any arty-farty guys. I wonder why... maybe leading in
> tango
> requires some thinking and not just dumbass rehearsal of moves like in
> some 'other' dances.
> Neeraj Korde
> ======================
> University of Michigan
> Mechanical Engineering
> ======================
> >Laurie
> >
>
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2004 01:29:24 +0900
From: astrid <astrid@RUBY.PLALA.OR.JP>
Subject: Re: How many Tango-L posters does it take to change a light bulb?
come to a college town and u will see that most
> tangueros are engineers, post-docs, scientists, research fellows and even
> professors, hardly any arty-farty guys. I wonder why... maybe leading in
> tango
> requires some thinking and not just dumbass rehearsal of moves like in
> some 'other' dances.
> Neeraj Korde
> ======================
> University of Michigan
> Mechanical Engineering
> ======================
I read some years ago in a German tango magazine, that in Germany almost
every tango dancer has at least an MA or some other advanced degree, many of
them in computer related fields. The journalist's interpretation was that
who spends the whole day alone in front of a screen or some other such work
environment, feels the urge to hold a warm body after work, be close to
people, and generally have a change of air in a more humane environment, to
make up for the lack of emotion and communication during the day.
Astrid
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 17:11:24 EDT
From: LGMoseley@AOL.COM
Subject: Re: How many Tango-L posters does it take to change a light bulb?
ASTRID WROTE:
"I read some years ago in a German tango magazine, that in Germany almost
every tango dancer has at least an MA or some other advanced degree, many of
them in computer related fields. The journalist's interpretation was that
who spends the whole day alone in front of a screen or some other such work
environment, feels the urge to hold a warm body after work, be close to
people, and generally have a change of air in a more humane environment, to
make up for the lack of emotion and communication during the day.
Astrid"
I doubt it. I and many of my 'engineering' type of Tango friends spend many
hours each day with people, and enjoy it ... and we still love Tango. There is
a huge difference between speculation and fact. Much of my professional life
is taken up with trying to get people to distinguish between them. Very often,
probably usually, the brutal facts destroy the attractive speculation.
Does the reason for doing Tango matter? Just do it. If you find that
analysing Tango technique makes your dancing better (in the opinion of your partners -
you can't trust your own unchecked judgement for that) or your pleasure
greater, so much the better. If it doesn't, you can still do Tango - although you
are missing one dimension of its pleasure. There are plenty of other dimensions
to enjoy, though.
Laurie
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2004 17:38:57 -0500
From: Stephen Brown <Stephen.P.Brown@DAL.FRB.ORG>
Subject: Re: How many Tango-L posters does it take to change a light bulb?
Laurie wrote:
>Does the reason for doing Tango matter?
I think the answer is yes. Dancing is an expression of how we present
ourselves in the world. We dance who we are. Those who mostly see tango
as being about the opportunity to hold another person are likely to
approach tango much differently than those who mostly pursue tango as an
opportunity for creative movement. These differences are likely to be
manifest in style, attitudes about learning, and what is considered
mastery.
With best wishes,
Steve
