3221  Enjoying it

Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 19:18:44 +0000
From: Oleh Kovalchuke <oleh_k@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject: Enjoying it

Sergio Vandekier wrote:

>As to the meaning of the attribute "milonguero" you should know by now that
>tango had a bad reputation in Argentina from the beginning. At a time when
>all the ballroom dances were considered to be "sinful" including Viennese
>Waltz Tango was the "worst". A dance done in the suburbs, the outskirts,
>the
>brothels, bars and gambling houses. Dancers of low socioeconomic class,
>prostitutes, compadritos and pimps. a dance where the bodies not only
>touched each other but where the legs invaded each other spaces...

Oh my God, no!!! Not the legs!!! - that way is stright to the very bottom...

Are you implying they also might have had sex afterwards?

What's next?

They could have stooped so low as to might have been even enjoying it?


Cheers, Oleh K., the hedonist
https://TangoSpring.com

>From: Sergio Vandekier <sergiovandekier990@HOTMAIL.COM>
>Reply-To: Sergio Vandekier <sergiovandekier990@HOTMAIL.COM>
>To: TANGO-L@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
>Subject: [TANGO-L] Tango dialects
>Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 15:44:36 +0000
>
>Dear tangueros and tangueras,
>
> You can speak the dialect that you find the
>best for you. I am merely describing what other tango dancers do.
>
>Tango is an improvised dance with a leader and a follower. This basic
>characteristic is shared with all the other ballroom dances. The initiative
>as to what is going to be lead is up to the man, the woman follows. This
>following is precisely her answer to a proposal, this is her part in the
>conversation. The same way as the passenger placed in the back seat of the
>car does not interfere with the driver, the woman does not interfere with
>what the leader has in mind. The man is creating a tango to please the
>woman, a tango where he will allow her to show all her colors and her
>skills
>in technique and artistic interpretation.
>
>Michael gives examples where a man does not allow the woman to show her
>skills. This means that the man most likely dances tango liso(simple) or
>that he is inexperienced. For the woman to start doing things that he does
>not lead is totally out of place, for she is going to alter his dancing or
>even worse she will humiliate him. What she should do is to dance with a
>better dancer that will lead everything she can and want to do.
>
>As to reacting to the unexpected, the good leader always knows how to do
>this. We do this all the time when dancing with beginner or intermediate
>women that may mis interpret some leads, we compensate in such a way that
>she does not even notice that something did not work. But to try to teach
>how to react to the unexpected to an inexperienced leader ...this is not
>going to take the dance too far.
>
>As to leading or not leading the cross, just do it the way you prefer. It
>is totally irrelevant! Everything works well. You have to understand that
>there are several ways to do things.
>
>I can walk to the right of the woman and expect that she is going to lock
>in
>front after two steps, (in this case I do not lead her cross, she does it
>on
>her own) or I CAN LEAD HER TO CROSS in front if I wish or I can walk
>outside
>to her right for ANY number of steps just by placing my left foot close to
>hers, indicating (leading) her not to cross. Everything works well. I can
>assure you that most people do not lead the woman to cross but if you do
>this is fine as well.
>
>As to the meaning of the attribute "milonguero" you should know by now that
>tango had a bad reputation in Argentina from the beginning. At a time when
>all the ballroom dances were considered to be "sinful" including Viennese
>Waltz Tango was the "worst". A dance done in the suburbs, the outskirts,
>the
>brothels, bars and gambling houses. Dancers of low socioeconomic class,
>prostitutes, compadritos and pimps. a dance where the bodies not only
>touched each other but where the legs invaded each other spaces. So a
>milonguero/a was an individual not very well liked. This prejudice is
>still
>present in some people but I will discuss this later.
>
>Summary: If you wish to dance interleading do so and have fun. I am used to
>lead every move of the lady and when she does something on her own it
>happens because in some way "I" caused her to do so. There are many ways to
>cook an egg that can be pleasant to both partners in the equation.
>
>